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Pump and filter or is it all in one
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Hi all

Very new to fish keeping and bought one second hand with all the bits but it has a pump and filter but not sure if I need both as thinking the filter does both.

I have attached photos but just need some idea on if I need both or not?

Also I have a flat heater is it fine to place at the bottom of the tank under the gravel?

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Sorry trying to attach image but not attaching
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Hello and welcome Smile
You might not need both the filter and air pump, the filter is your main source of bacteria/munchers that deal with your fish waste etc, the air pump/stone will help increase the amount of oxygen dissolved in the water.
I also wouldnt put the heater under the gravel as they get really hot when on, so it would likely burn out because it might stay constantly on, they read the water temperature and come on when they detect it too cold. So it would be ineffective under the gravel.
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I have heard of flat heaters. They are normally used in tanks that don’t have much depth of water for things like turtles etc. Is it square and quite thin or is it more of a cylinder?

The flat types for terrariums and the like may not be powerful enough to heat a full aquarium.

That’s obviously if I’m thinking of the right type of heater.

You can always add images using the “imgur” button. Click on New Reply and it’s under the emoji box on the left of the page. That should work until the attachment issue is sorted.
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This has reminded me : putting a 'flat' heater under a filled aquarium, as opposed to a dry vivarium, is a no-no.

This according to a post ages ago in Another Place ; actually I think the post was by Tim (Clothahump). Either he, or someone he knew, tried it : the glass exploded after a while!
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(20-07-2019, 04:31 PM)Cheltgirl Wrote: I have heard of flat heaters. They are normally used in tanks that don’t have much depth of water for things like turtles etc. Is it square and quite thin or is it more of a cylinder?

The flat types for terrariums and the like may not be powerful enough to heat a full aquarium.

That’s obviously if I’m thinking of the right type of heater.

You can always add images using the “imgur” button. Click on New Reply and it’s under the emoji box on the left of the page. That should work until the attachment issue is sorted.

The thin one is the one I have no thermostats on it and it just runs. I have an Aqua Start 320 so it’s a small aquarium
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(20-07-2019, 04:16 PM)Gingerlove05 Wrote: Hello and welcome Smile
You might not need both the filter and air pump, the filter is your main source of bacteria/munchers that deal with your fish waste etc, the air pump/stone will help increase the amount of oxygen dissolved in the water.
I also wouldnt put the heater under the gravel as they get really hot when on, so it would likely burn out because it might stay constantly on, they read the water temperature and come on when they detect it too cold. So it would be ineffective under the gravel.
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Good point would be best as don’t want to hurt any of the fish incase they nip at the stones
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(20-07-2019, 04:16 PM)Gingerlove05 Wrote: Hello and welcome Smile
You might not need both the filter and air pump, the filter is your main source of bacteria/munchers that deal with your fish waste etc, the air pump/stone will help increase the amount of oxygen dissolved in the water.
I also wouldnt put the heater under the gravel as they get really hot when on, so it would likely burn out because it might stay constantly on, they read the water temperature and come on when they detect it too cold. So it would be ineffective under the gravel.
The forum is currently having an issue with attachments, admin are working on it Smile


Good point as dont want want the fish getting hurt
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Vale!This has reminded me : putting a 'flat' heater under a filled aquarium, as opposed to a dry vivarium, is a no-no.

This according to a post ages ago in Another Place ; actually I think the post was by Tim (Clothahump). Either he, or someone he knew, tried it : the glass exploded after a while!


Def going to avoid
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