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Rift Valley lake decision
#1
Hi all, I'm new here.

I have set up a 150 litre (ish) (120 cm x 30 cm x 43 cm, minus crushed coral substrate and rocks. It is currently about a week into a fishless cycle. pH is 8, haven't checked hardness, but I imagine it's hard. The filter is a Eheim pro 4 250. Temperature is 28 degrees C.

I am trying to decide between a Malawi tank with either mbuna or peacock cichlids, or a Tanganyika tank, with, well, I'm not that sure.

I have years of experience keeping and breeding South American cichlids (sevrums, discus, angels, and lots and lots of Apistos), but i have very little experience keeping Rift Valley cichlids. I have kept mbuna, but not in a serious way. I have also kept Altolamprologus and also Neolamprologus brichardi, and some shellies (multis I think), but most of these were inherited fish, rather than planned.

I'd love to try Tangs, but my main concern is availability, and compatibility. I live in Cambridge and I have a car, so can travel, but does anyone know where to get good quality Tangs from in the East/South East of England?

Also, any recommendations for stocking?

Obviously I would make sure the water parameters were in the correct ranges for the fish/ lake involved, probably by either making my own buffer or buying one.

Let me know if you have any questions!

Thanks in advance!

Rob
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Hello and welcome Rob Smile
Unfortunately i am useless with Malawi or Tanganyikan cichlids other thanthey look pretty Big Grin
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Welcome!! Can’t wait to see pictures of the tank when it’s all set up. Had to google Rift Valley cichlids, amazing colours. Love how cichlids big & small always look so peed off haha,
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The water in Cambridge is perfectly hard for Rift valley cichlids, the water needs to be around 26C for a Malawi tank (after the cycle is complete).
You'll have to decide on whether it's a Malawi tank (26C) or a Tanganyika tank (25C).
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also don't mix the two! ones a meat eater, the others a veggie!
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#6
Thanks for the replies!

Yes, I will only be keeping one of either mbuna, peacocks or (smallish) tangs. It the availability that is the problem for tangs for me. I see lake Malawi cichlids everywhere.

Also, the tank is at 28 degrees C, without the heater on! It's been so hot recently. Hopefully it'll cool down soon.

Thanks,
Rob
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Welcome to the forum. Smile
I know to have to overstock Rift Lake cichlids, but isn't a 150l a bit small for most Tangs? They tend to be big.
You'd only be able to squeeze about 12 of the smaller Malawis in there as well...?
If at first you don't succeed....
...get someone else to do it! Big Grin

Enjoy your fish, shrimps and snails!
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Hello and welcome to the forum, looking forward to seeing your progress, with pics of course, we love pics here Wink
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Hi plankton,

Yes, you might be right about the size. I'm now thinking shellies, with perhaps some Cyprichromis leptosoma and/or Paracyprichromis nigripinnis, if I can get hold of them.

Annie - I'll get some photos soon. I thought i uploaded one already, but it appears not!

Thanks,
Rob
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shellies in a 4 foot tank? need about 100 to fill that up!!
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