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Platy struggling to swim - Photo Added
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Hi,

I recently lost one of my platies - there around 15month old now, were a pets a home fish and havent had the easiest life (Biorb 30 probably too early, then a bit of a ammonia spike when they went into the Lido 200 (albeit that was about 3 months ago now) but I now have another that seems ill.

It seems like it cant swim, it lies on the bottom with the fins moving quite alot, it then seems to put alot of effort in to swim up to the top or swim around, the second it stops swiming like mad it seems to just sink.

Any ideas? - Id think they arent "old" yet? - but i am aware i never gave them the best start unfortunately

Lee
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It does sound like a swim bladder issue and may be related to age, a few of my livebearers have gone this way as they get old.
The trouble is you never know how old they are when you get them, or how they were kept before you got them.
How hard is your water?
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Water is really hard, keep meaning get a RO filter.

I've been and got some Interpret swim bladder. Do i put the dose in the tank even though all the other fish are ok?

It also says for me to remove the carbon media, how long do i leave this out?

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Lee
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Platys love hard water, they dont do well in soft water. So no need for the RO with them.
Do you have any pics? Platys can be greedy and he may have eaten too much putting pressure on the swim bladder so a starve day or two with a feeding of peas might help.
I dont use carbon media unless its for removing meds/tanins, it only lasts around 6 weeks anyway.
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Ah i'm running (Jewel filter) the Carbax, Amorax and Cirax media, although both the carbax and amorax are due for replacement (based on jewe replace times)

I'm not sure what they are even filtering out

Just been looking as did the water change this morning - its not actually on the bottom atm but its staying really low and is hidden in the plants right at the back so a pic is a no go at the moment.

Lee
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Only change the carbon sponge if you do change any, leave the rest. Otherwise you would remove some of your beneficial bacteria and cause your tank to spike/recycle. I only gently rinse my sponges when the filter flow drops, normally ever few months (maybe). The amorax is probably for ammonia, the carbon is for fine particles meds and tannins, and cirax is probably housng the beneficial bacteria. Not totally sure, i’ve never used the juwel filter Big Grin
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Hi Gingerlove,

Its not sponges, its containers of media:

https://www.juwel-aquarium.de/en/Product...ia/Carbax/

https://www.juwel-aquarium.de/en/Product...dia/Cirax/

So i should remove the carbax - then put the med in.

Presume the med wont harm any other fish?

How long do i leave it before putting the carbax back in?

Lee
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Same difference Big Grin
The cirax houses your beneficial bacteria so dont change that. You can put the carbon back in after the course of meds although i would recommend trying the pea method first before the meds.
For the peas i normally put them in a cup with some boiling water, microwave it for 30secs-1min then remove the shell and feed the mushy inside (you can break it up a bit).
As i also previously mentioned it could be age related as you have had them 15months and they could be a year or so old when you buy them, platys have a lifespan of 3-5years. I have had many born here that have only lasted 3 years maybe a bit over, although i have had (and still have 1) who got over/around 4 years old.
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I'll try the peas tomorrow then - yeah could be age i guess.

I've also seen (even in this state) - it seems to like going over to one of the bolivian rams part of the tank...so its not impossible that it decided to pick on someone its own size...then came up against a ram.

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That may be part of the issue if he’s in the rams territory and they’re chasing him out, they may have hit the swim bladder or injured him.
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Hi,

I fed peas yesterday and as you suggested - they loved it.

I've noticed since however the platy has come up with a silver/white mark or maybe a scale hanging off - Try get a pic but they wont stay still!!

[Image: K6DFsh7l.jpg]

Any ideas?

Lee
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Just ran some water tests

PH 7.8
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 40 (maybe a bit less, bit more orange than 40, but not 20)

API Test kit
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Possible small knick/injury. It should clear up in a couple of days but keep an eye on it. If she (?) has been in the rams territory the ram may have caught her.
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You could use some Melafix to prevent secondary problems and aid the repair. Wink
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