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Hi all,

First time poster, second time tank owner (if we count a rather poorly conceived one I had aged 10). I recently bought a Superfish Quadro 70 Pro and have been having some issues with the filter, basically the intake is just a bit too powerful.

The tanks first inhabitants were some cherry shrimp after I'd checked on the product page that it's grilled filter intake was 'shrimp safe', that proved not to be the case. When I first bought them they sheltered underneath the intake so I sat and watched to make sure they could get back out, which they could, but unfortunately one morning I woke up and a few were missing. After a bit of frantic search I disassembled the filter and found that three of them had been sucked up and died :(. Lesson learned, I bought one of those meshed substrate bags and put that over the filter to add extra shrimp proofing, and things were rosy for awhile.
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Fast forward to yesterday when I bought this handsome fella. A silver lining to the first disaster was that I was cautious about the filter, turning it off when I introduced him as I thought the flow would be a bit fast for him anyways. After a while I then turned on the filter and observed how he got on, he liked playing in the outflow but then he ended up getting his tail trapped underneath the filter and couldn't get back out. Dammit. I turned it off and he was able to get back out.

So that leaves me now with a filter I don't dare turn on. As a temporary measure I've replaced the pump in the bottom compartment of the filter with an airstone to hopefully drive some water flow up through the media, but it doesn't have enough pressure to flow out of the top so I don't know effective that will be.

I can't see any control for limiting the power of the pump so I was thinking my options are either:
  • Limit the filters intake power somehow
  • Replace it with a sponge filter
  • Leave the setup with just the air stones
Limiting the intake power unfortunately doesn't seem to be something that can controlled on the pump, would stuffing the pump compartment be very effective? Then I imagine I'd have issues with whatever I stuff it with becoming clogged and requiring maintenance. I was also thinking I could cover up the underside intake but then I figure that'll increase the flow through the side grills which sounds like another recipe for a stuck betta.

Replacing with a sponge filter seems to me to probably be the most practical and safe option, it'll give me peace of mind about the betta and shrimp, and without the crystal clear in the current filter hopefully the catappa leaves I've added will actually colour up the tank nicely. Only things I'm less keen about are that it'll ruin the whole integrated look of the tank, though critter safety ultimately takes priority over this.

And then lastly easiest option would just be to leave it with the airstone in the pump compartment (and another elsewhere in the tank), which has the benefit of being easiest and keeping the established media and look of the tank, I'm just concerned about how effective it will be.

So yeah just looking for some input or any advice that anyone might have as I wasn't really sure where to go from here, I'm probably leaning towards just ripping out the damned thing and getting a nice simple sponge filter, but thought I'd see what others thought. Here's some pics of the tank, intake, removed filter, and a bonus video of a betta elevator

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Welcome to the forum. :)
I've had a look at the online manual, which is far from appealing, and can't see any way of turning the filter down, is there any way you can baffle it with a sponge or mesh or something?
By the way, don't change the media monthly like it says, you'll lost all the "munchers" in it and the tank will cycle again. Just give it a gentle rinse in the old tank water as you do the weekly change. (Don't use tapwater as it's such a minimal amount of media you can't afford to lose any "munchers" ;) )
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plankton wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 12:50 pm Welcome to the forum. :)
I've had a look at the online manual, which is far from appealing, and can't see any way of turning the filter down, is there any way you can baffle it with a sponge or mesh or something?
By the way, don't change the media monthly like it says, you'll lost all the "munchers" in it and the tank will cycle again. Just give it a gentle rinse in the old tank water as you do the weekly change. (Don't use tapwater as it's such a minimal amount of media you can't afford to lose any "munchers" ;) )
Thanks! :)

I've just tried removing half of blades on the impeller following advice from a different forum. Things were looking better but I've just now seen him get sucked up against the intake grills again :/ I think with how much bother I've had with this filter already I'm just going to get a nice gentle sponge filter - with how many workarounds I've already tried I don't think I'll have any peace of mind with this corner filter no matter what modifications I make.

Yeah definitely wasn't planning monthly media changes! I agree the supporting documentation for the tank isn't amazing, I can't find any way to do the supposed dimming of the lighting that's mentioned online either.
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i think a sponge filter would be the way to go.

This is why I never buy all in one kit type aquariums, the filters are almost always too powerful.
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mikeyboy123 wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:49 pm This is why I never buy all in one kit type aquariums, the filters are almost always too powerful.
Usually its the other way around or the amount of media they hold isn't enough to keep a snail alive :P

With the light, try holding the power button for a few seconds, usually they have a 2 or 3 step dimming function built into the power button :)
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fr499y wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 13:31 pm
mikeyboy123 wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:49 pm This is why I never buy all in one kit type aquariums, the filters are almost always too powerful.
Usually its the other way around or the amount of media they hold isn't enough to keep a snail alive :P

With the light, try holding the power button for a few seconds, usually they have a 2 or 3 step dimming function built into the power button :)
Ahh great cheers I'll give that a shot with the light :)

I hadn't planned on getting an all in one set up originally but it was on a deal that was too good to pass up, although by this point with all the extra purchases I've made trying to resolve the filter woes the savings are probably moot anyways :rofl:
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